Jon & Kate


So I watched the Jon and Kate Plus 8 season opener last night. Read a few blog commentaries on the matter. And wanted to throw a few of my own thoughts out there.

Kate
  1. The whole "Kate's a bitch" comments bug me. I think that if a camera followed me around for most of my mothering hours even my own parents would be saying, "OMG! What a hag!" Now add an extra 6 young children to the mix - and watch me shrill like a broken teakettle.
  2. I think this woman genuinely has some anxiety and OCD issues. And society at large holds moms to such high standards - they don't often get cut much slack for any psychological or behavior stumbles. Their own or their children's. I know I've overheard comments about myself like, "Yeah. I know she has ADHD. But seriously - she should really know how important it is to sign the field trip forms on time." Gah!
  3. The criticism over Kate having help. Seriously? I have a hard time not ninja kicking moms that talk about how their mothers/sisters/etc. came and lived with them after the birth of their child. I just get that jealous. For the most part if my husband and I need a break we have to pay someone to do it. And whenever I do get a nice babysitter break I feel like such a better, happier person afterwards. I have a hard time slagging on a mom for getting help - especially with a brood that big.
  4. What's with the before/after pictures of Kate in the tabloids? With "before" being her pregnant with SIX CHILDREN. Yea. She looked like shit man. Let herself go entirely for sure. The hell? Who looks good in the last stages of pregnancy? With multiples no less!
  5. Yes the haircut is God awful. I keep wanting to like it when I see it at certain angles. Because I've seen similar cuts done very cutely. But Kate's hair looks like some sort of collage of 80's hairdos.
Jon
  1. Jon's a pussy. There I said it. Yeah - I think Kate is way out of line in how she speaks to him and berates him. But my God man, grow a pair! Call her on it, make it into a joke - do what you got to do. But the whole victim thing is not attractive. He's pretty much primed for an affair with a younger, adoring and fully non-threatening female. Which he'll dump once she grows up and begins to question "nag" him.
  2. Poor dude is so disassociated from everything that the kids are bouncing off of him and he doesn't seem to notice. Just looks sort of dazed. Or drunk. Not a happy guy and it's sad he seems to be missing out because of it.
  3. From what I could see the guy really did rally to do his best with the kids from the start. I admire him for that - it was not an easy foray into fatherhood.
  4. Jon's new spikey gel hair looks like it came from the pages of douchebag website. I understand this inclination though - I do. It's similar to an issue we larger girls have. We lose weight and get psyched that we can fit into the next size down. So we wear something that in our heart of hearts we have always had a secret desire to fit into. Something inappropriate and out of date like a tube top. But back in 1993 we pictured ourselves in it - vowed to own it if we ever lost the weight. And by God we are going to wear it now! Jon's hair is his very own tube top.
The whole show bummed me out - mostly because divorce makes me sad. I was glad that Cake Boss came on afterwards and entertained me with his Jersey accent. "Dat's beyootiful!"

30 comments:

The Queen said...

I have only half followed it,, until last night.. and frankly...

I felt so sorry for Kate and the kids..and I personally thought the Jon needed neutered and then some.

He did not say.. I'm here for my kids, until she had ... and it made him look bad,, then he went.. omg.. I need to look better... YOU COULD SEE IT IN HIS FACE...

he is a skank...lower than whale poo..

Raina said...

Man, I wish I could see this show (it doesn't air in New Zealand).

I caught a few episodes when it first aired, before we moved here. Sounds like the "uh oh" moments they used to have have blown up into "oh no he/she di'int" messes.

LSL said...

If I can add my opinion, and I don't think it's a totally popular one . . .

I agree that Jon is a pussy and a total child. He needs to be smacked. Hard. But I don't have much sympathy for Kate either, other than just feeling sad about divorce in general and how it usually affects children. The show was a complete marketing wonder - the slow music under her solo time in the chair? Please. Someone smart has been looking at the public reaction to all this and recognizing that people are finally saying, "Yeah, the way she talks to every human being makes my SKIN CRAWL" and realizing that the show (and it's profits) is going to go down the tubes unless they can drum up some sympathy for her.

I'm sorry. If your marriage is in jeopardy, which clearly it was last season, handle it privately. Take the cameras away. Don't invite them into your house and then bitch about the paparazzi. Their lust for fame is gross to me. I cannot imagine going on to do another season. You have the million dollar house, the vacations, the farm, the cars, everything you need and then some. Take the cameras away. If your kids and your marriage are your first priority, put your money where your mouth is. Until then, please shut up!

I guess I felt strongly about it. :)

LSL said...

PS The hair is AWFUL!

Lotta said...

LSL - I don't know what kind of contract they have with TLC? Could they have quit?

C Lo said...

Here is what bugs me and what I don't see anyone else talking about:

Kate's complete and utter refusal to take any responsibility for her part in the marriage.

I will admit to having a marital dynamic much like Jon and Kates and as much as I want to bitch about my immature husband.......as much as ANY of us want to play the martyr wife.......there are two people in a marriage and all you can do is own your own actions. All Kate seems to be doing is bitching about what Jon has done and making excuses for her bad actions. Fuck that noise.

I hope they get therapy and I hope she starts working on herself.

Miss Yvonne said...

I was over these two when they bought that million dollar house.

P.S. The tube top analogy for his hair is the best thing I've read all day!

IamSusie said...

I thought the show was really sad too. I think they made a deal with the devil when they bought that giant house with no soul. It really bugged me last season when Kate went on and on about "my kids deserve all this" nonsense.. as though a mansion will make them happy. John used to have an important "man of the house" role before they hit it big. He used to build the furniture, do the home maintenance, be the calming relief to the family's stressed days... but then they got rich and he thought it would be good to work at home and suddenly he has no identity anymore. It is obvious he hates the television cameras, but he loves his sports car.

She is too controlling and she should try to say more loving appreciative things to him, but he needs to stand up to her. They also need to banish the television cameras and try to get some privacy.

I don't think either of them cheated, but they certainly have grown apart with the fame. I love watching shows about other peoples problems... Did you see Obsessed about the people with OCD?

Lotta said...

CLo - I can agree with that!

IAm - I couldn't watch that OCD show. I'm too compulsive myself at times (my bedtime ritual is unreal). And so watching stuff like that just sets off all my own ticks. Good insight about the marriage. It's like the last thing that made him feel important went away.

erin said...

I just wrote about this today too. Jon reminds me of these super creepy teacher from my high school. His wife was kind of bitchy and they had five boys, two sets of twins and one baby... He would brag about his kids and blah blah blah, then he would stare at girls' asses and make inappropriate comments.

Emmie {orange + barrel} said...

Kate reminds me of how my mother treats people and being in a home like that makes me think that she acts like a bitch, but the whole thing is so sad. I can't imagine how stressful it would be to have 8 kids though. I felt weird watching someones divorce unfold on TV.

Leah said...

I totally agree with you. I hope they can turn to their faith and save their marriage but it may take turning the cameras off.

Kathi D said...

No sympathy for Kate here. It's not about whether she has help or not, it's that she insists on pretending that she does everything ALL BY HERSELF and she is always SO EXHAUSTED. It's a sham. She has never, ever done everything all by herself, and the last several months it has been all Jon with the kids while she is flying around the country on "book tours," while still trying to present herself as a hands-on Mommy. Last night's show was the most affection she has shown to those kids since they were infants, and it didn't ring true at all. Yes, Jon is an immature brat, but since she has always treated him as her 9th child, he was bound to rebel at some point, as all children do. The only sadness I have is for the eight children who didn't ask to be on television and would be so much happier in a tiny house with a happy and intact family. Which will never happen, because Kate is determined to keep the SHOW going on as long as she can, while Jon has been wanting to end it--yes, he whines about the impact it has on HIM, and he should be stepping up to end it because of what it is doing to the children, but at least he is on the right page. Kate is enjoying "stardom" too much to worry about what's happening to the kids. Clearly they are now pitching her as the poor cheated-on wife who will soldier on alone. Puh-leeze.

Wow, I got wound up there.

Lynda said...

Heh...your posting hit my thoughts on the mark. I used to be so totally in Jon's camp - felt sorry that she didn't appear to really appreciate him - but no longer. Who decides they 'need a break' the weekend before a monumental birthday party??? I am glad the kids appeared to be clueless to his absence. Broke my heart when one asked him not to go away again. Aw. And it's VERY very sad that they can't seem to put the same energy into their MARRIAGE as they do other things. It's going to be interesting to see what comes out of this mess. I have been watching on and off since their first special. I feel like they are part of my family sometimes. Sigh.

LSL said...

Hi there - it seemed like at the end of the 4th season, they had a choice to renew or not. But either way, stop writing books! Stop touring! For christsake, stop twittering! Know what I mean? Ugh!

mrsgingergrl said...

I agree with you 100% about everything (including the great Jersey accent...lol). I have been so bother by how vehemently women dislike Kate, how angry they get at her having help or even having a backbone. Is she OCD and at times a shrew? HELL YES! Would the family have completely fallen apart including that shlump of a husband without her? Duh. Does she love her kids and they adore her? Undoubtedly.

Lulu said...

I think it's interesting to see how much fanfare and tabloid talk and comments this whole thing has generated - not since Brangelina went public....:)

It's just sad for that entire family, no matter who we want to eviscerate in the land of public opinion.

Anonymous said...

Jon's an ass... this whole "I can't seperate myself from Jon & Kate Plus 8" whine is just so irritating. With our without the show, you are still Jon & Kate Plus 8, deal already! You still get to mope around your large house, with your helpers that you owe largely to your show and your wife's books... so sorry for your ass-bite of a life. Dork.

Anonymous said...

And your tube top analogy... brilliant!

Muffy Willowbrook said...

I'm glad to read your thoughts on Kate. I don't necessarily think she's the WonderMom, but I definitely don't think she's a Monster by any means, either. I think she's stressed! And she copes with it by being in control - and that is a turn off for alot of people. I don't have 8 kids, heck, I don't even have one - but I'd hate to be judged on what little part of my behavior/life/personality is reflected from a show that producers decide to put together.

Kim said...

I never even watch this show and now I can't get enough of what is going on.

I told my husband about how many people said she was a "rag" and he actuallly said, "Do you know how you get when the kids act up and the house is messy? Multiply THAT by 8".

Hate to say it, but I think he has a point.

Anonymous said...

Kate's a bitch. A faaacking bitch.
She has totally emasculated Jon. And he's a HUGE pussy for putting up with it. Go get a job, Jon. Stay at home Kate and take care of your kids yourself! Oh, that's right......you just bought a multimillion dollar house.

Anonymous said...

I have to disagree with you here, my wife called me one day to say that Kate was in Houston promoting her book. At the time we were fans of the show but we were starting to grow tired of Kate who was constantly bitching at John and others offering her help. Anyway, we went to the book store and bought a copy for us and 2 more copies for friends of our who watch the show. After paying $20.00 per book + $6.00 per book for her to sign it we waited in line. 90 minutes later it was ouor turn to approach the "goddess" My wife (who is extremely shy and quite) asked Kate if she could personalize the book by writing "To Krist" and then just sign her name....the bitch practically went apeshit...she said "you want me to do what?" the she huffed...well she personalized 2 of them...yes she had to write 4 extra words and on the last one she proclaimed "this is ridiculous" and just signed her name. Well I had been biting by tongue and seeing my wife was mortified by Kate's reaction I told her that she should be a little appreciative of those standing in line to buying her crappy book. I said it is not like I approched you on the street, whipped out a copy and asked you to drop everything to give me an autograph...I am PAYING you to sign your name besides the proceeds you recieved from me buying 3 copies of your book...needless to say I was asked to move on because I was holding up the line. And I should mention I never raised my voice but I wanted her to be aware that several years ago she was just an average joe like the rest of us. Long story short she is a bitch with a capital B.

As for Jon...I have read several of the comments above saying he needs to grow a pair. I have several buddies married to women like Kate. Their wives clearly wear the pants and most of these husbands remind me of Jon. It is not that they do not "have a pair" rather they are just non-confrontational guys. They are the type that can let the bitching go in one ear and out the other without letting it get them all worked up. I feel the only way a natural bithy woman could possibly get married is to marry a laid back guy like that. My best frien is like this...never gets upset about anything...he married the biggest bitch of a woman and he is totally happy...on her good days everything is great...when she is in one of her moods he just takes her coments with a grain of salt and moves on. I feel Jon loves Kate but got really upset when he did stand up and said he wanted last season to be the end of this circus and she demanded 2 more seasons. He is seeing what this is doing to the family...all she is seeing is the $$$$.

That's it...I am done.

Jason in TX

P.S like the blog...never commented so I guess this makes up for lost time.

Jenny said...

Jason in TX - Thank you for that perspective. I am not surprised at Kate's reaction to your request.

Both Jon and Kate are at fault for the condition of their marriage. Kate needs to put her wants aside and let Jon be the head of the house. Jon needs to willingly assume that role. Neither of them is stepping up to the appropriate plate.

They need to quit the show and try to repair their relationship. That and that alone is what they can do for their kids that will make a positive difference.

Anonymous said...

Jenny...I agree 100%

And my spelling is not as bad as it seems in the above post...I was typing with some fury yesterday. KAte is one person that gets my blood boiling.

Jason in TX

Jenny said...

And I want to clarify something I said -- I don't think a woman should be a doormat to her husband (i.e., give up all her wants). I was referring to extremes.

If the relationship is give and take with mutual respect, it will result in a win-win situation.

Anonymous said...

I know I should just let this go but as you can see your post really struck a nerve when it comes to this woman. You mentioned you would be bitchy to if you had cameras in your face all day...as would I but Kate wanted this...she thrives on this. Here is the latest claims on the "goddess"

http://omg.yahoo.com/news/report-kate-gosselin-gave-jon-a-5-a-day-allowance/23056?nc


Jason in TX

Lotta said...

Jason - I think none of us will really know what goes down in their marriage. For all we know Jon's into beastiality and Kate's a wiccan.

I've got my opinion based on what the show has let me see. And I DO think Kate is out of line in the way she speaks.

I just don't hear people cut her much slack and she does have 8 kids - help or no. That's a lot man.

But it's good to hear your perspective. It will be interesting to see how it all plays out.

Darla~SassyHomemaker said...

Lotta,

EXACTLY! I'm glad to see someone speaking out in a little bit of defense of Kate. Very few have done so.

Brava.

BoggyWoggy said...

I once threw a rubber boot through a window at our house in a "fit-of-rage." My husband shied away from me, as quickly as possible. I raged and screamed and cried...right in the driveway. My then-14-year-old son was the one who came out of the house and brought me inside, telling me to, "Calm down, Mom. Everything will be OK."
My husband is the "John" of our family...but, it's how he survives. As he says, "It's not worth the pain," to try and calm me down, point out my bitchiness, nor intervene when I'm on a roll. I love my "John" very much and see how avoidance works for him. The difference? I admit I've got a "bitch" problem and tell him about it. Kate? She'd never take the blame. She is a classic bitch, through and through, with side comments and demands that go beyond...